Conversation between a Singh and a Muslim Bibi (Girl)
by Daas (Anonymous)
Pyare jio, recently I encountered a bibi who was heavily influenced by islam. She wanted to have a debate with me. She
seemed quite confident she was going to convince me about the superiority of Islam. I accepted. The angle she used was
all about life after death.
A few weeks later I was talking to another local Gursikh about this. He said this was so strange. He said in the office he worked,
he too was approached, and also asked about life after death. He said not only this, but his brother who studies in a birmingham
university was also asked the same questions. So was his sister, who is a teenager in a leeds school. We thought this cannot be a
coincidnce that in the matter a two weeks four practicing sikhs are approached by muslims with exactly the same questions. These
are just the people we know, how many more?
Wondering about this, we came to the conclusion, that there must be some kind of organised approach to this. Quite possibly an
egroup, which regularly lists questions which can be asked to all non-muslims, to question their faith, and then interest them
Two weeks ago, I met another sikh who works as a teacher in a school. He said he has alot of muslim kids in his class. He said
one of them even came up to him, put his arm around him, and said, "give me half an hour, and I will convince you islam is the
only way." He said he was amazed at the level of confidence in these kids that they could say something like that to their teacher.
Below is the debate we had about this subject, initiated by the bibi.
Bibi: Bhaji, You sikhs believe in reincarnation. This is a completely absurd theory. It does not make sense. How can a
human then become a pig?
Das: Bhen ji, both sikhs and hindus believe in re-incarnation, but our belief is different in some areas, but the whole
concept of re-incarnation is not about what a person becomes in their next life, but about escaping the cycle of life and
death and becoming mukht.
Bibi : But how do you become a pig from a human?
Das: The body is just a vessel, only the soul is what is of value. This soul can be born in any vessel.
Bibi: I do not accept this, I think it is absurd.
Das: Bhen ji, that is your choice. A person after death is judged according to their thoughts & actions. It is according
to this judgement, that they are honoured or dishonoured in the next life. But even this is not so important. The important
thing is to be able to break the cycle in life and death, while alive. To be able to attain a spiritual plain and obtain
mukhti. Then it does not matter what you will be in the next life, for you are free and merged with God. That is the key to
re-incarnation, that one breaks free from this cycle.
Bibi: Fine, but is sikhi the way? Judgement day will come upon us all.
Das: Yes it will, and it happens everyday. Everyday we are judged, and every action we do has a re-action. But in the end to
Judgement day will come, we call it the Dharam Raj, you call it different.
Bibi: No, judgement day will come to everyone on this earth. The day will be beckoning, when Allah judges all, and the muslims
Das: You mean the muslims will rise, ie. all the ones buried in coffins will rise again and you will have an army of zombies
fighting against non-muslims. You find re-incarnation absurd, but you find this acceptable?
Bibi: Islam is the truth, it is the only way. All those who are non-muslims will become muslims.
Das: Judgement day as a concept is complete nonsense. It does not make sense.
Bibi: How can you say that?
Das: Bhen ji, relax and listen. Firstly you believe in a day. Why? God, Allah, Waheguru, does not believe in day and night,
God is timeless. Day and night is a concept of man, and the result of the earth circling the sun. Why would God wait for a
day to judge everyone. God is beyond that. It is a continuous process as in sikhi has with the Dharam raj. Do you believe
God is not capable of judging people continuously. Why wait for a day? Them muslims who died centuries ago are then unlucky
for they have had to stay in coffins all this time, decomposing, waiting for this day to come when they can be judged. Does
this not seem an ineffective way, surely continuous judgement via dhram raj is more sensible, and God`s way is Truth. I see
more truth in continuous judgement.
Bibi: yes, but your way, turns a human into a pig?
Das: Bhen ji, You are stuck on one silly point. God gives his beloved souls many many chances, it is they who choose whether
to take this chance or not. If they do not then they come back in some form or another. Just because muslims do not like pigs,
does not mean they are bad. A pig is part of Allah`s creation aswell, just like everything else. A person who is a friend of
God, is also a friend on his creation. That person learns to love and appreciate everything God has created.
Bibi: No, in islam there is only one chance, there is only one way, and you are judged according to it.
Das: How can this be the way of God? Even a mother with a child. The child as it grows up makes thousands of mistakes, the
mother sometimes gets frustrated, but never stops loving the child. The mother always forgives and has that compassionate
nature. And we are talking of God. It is God who put that compassionate nature into the mother. How can we say God is not
compasionate at all? The human will make thousands of mistakes in their life, no matter how holy they are, but God will
always love them, help them, and be compassionate towards them. he gives them thousands of chances.
Bibi: Yes, true a mother is compassonate and so must be God. l have to read deeper, maybe in islam you do get another chance.
Das: Then if you do get another chance, then that chance has a form. Whether or not you accept it, then that is a form of
re-incarnation, and non-acceptance of Judgement day theory.
(Bibi goes quiet, revelation suddenly dawns upon her)
Bibi: No, No, I will have to get back to you ... We will talk about this again..